Should I breed my Curly Horse?


FEB 2006
editorial by Donna Vickery


Should I breed my Curly mare? This is a question most owners of a Curly mare will ask themselves at some point in time. Obviously there are no guarantees, but there are common sense questions we should ask ourselves before we breed a Curly mare. Like any pet, to breed a mare & produce a foal is to take full responsibility for that foal's life until it goes to another home. When the question of whether or not to breed your Curly mare comes up, it is time to ask and answer a lot of other questions first:

What is the general market like? At the time of this writing, the horse market in general is soft. That is, in most people's opinion, it is not a good time to breed horses and expect to automatically sell them as weanlings or youngstock, for a profit. Horses are somewhat over-populated both in USA & Europe - generally speaking, the supply exceeds the demand. During a soft market, it is a risk that a breeder can produce an unwanted horse. And we all know what that situation can ultimately lead to.

What is the local market like? Some breeders live in areas where there are populations of people looking for exactly what they have. If that is the case in your area, make sure these prospective buyers are really interested in a foal and not just expressing interest in buying one like your (ready-to-ride) mare. And don't forget to assess how successful these prospective buyers would be in raising a foal from weaning through training and riding. You would be surprised how many intelligent-sounding would-be buyers don't even know the difference between a well-fed horse and a mal-nourished horse, or who will start riding them at 2 years of age! Another too-common horror story is the interested buyers who expect to purchase fully trained reliable saddle horses for a weanling's price. All too common!

Can I depend on selling my Curly baby on the internet? No. You cannot depend on that, but it certainly is a venue you would not want to miss out on, either. Internet marketing is an important way to market special horses to prospective owners from all over the world. If you have your own website, you have to make sure links to your site are placed where buyers who are looking will see them.

Should I use a Classified site? Yes. Even if you have your own site, but especially when you don't have your own website, you should use internet classifieds sites. You have to advertise your horse on a classified site that is likely to have buyers looking for what you are selling. Also pick the right size classified site. Classified sites are a dime a dozen, most of them are struggling to survive and offer good deals; take advantage of the free ones but don't pay too much for too many, as most don't have the traffic to warrant it. They must have lots of traffic of course, but some have too many ads to compete with; you can easily pay $40 to advertise a Quarter horse weanling on Dreamhorse.com for example, and it never be looked at. It is literally lost in the overwhelming numbers of ads.

What will happen if I cannot sell the foal? Can you afford to keep a foal that does not sell? This is a question I failed to answer myself a few times. I was such an optimist, and relied on the fact that I had nice quality horses, and that I had a good website, etc., that they would sell themselves, even if I didn't make a profit. (I also owned stallions & mares before I was able to sell all that I needed to, and in my situation, I had to breed the mares to good stallions rather than have brand-X stallions from next door breed them) But regardless of that, I experienced first hand the hard way, you have to have a plan B. If you cannot sell the foal, and you cannot actually afford the expense or have room to keep the foal, you must be able to find a great home to give it away to (hard to do, freebies are not often appreciated). A successful breeding program happens when you can continue to properly keep & feed & train every foal you produce yourself, until such time as it sells for what it is worth, whether you breed 1 mare or many.

Am I willing to put forth the effort to get GOOD photographs of my horse(s) for sale? This also holds true for standing a stallion at stud. This is a question that I am always surprised more people don't ask themselves. The results of not asking themselves this question is apparent all over the internet, and in what potential buyers receive when they ask for photos of horses being offered for sale or at stud. You absolutely have to get good photos of your horse to sell it. Especially on the internet, but even local shoppers want to see a photo ad or an emailed photo before they drive out to see it in person. Especially with the price of fuel nowadays! Plus, poor photos are a terrible reflection on your dedication & investment and a red flag for would-be buyer that you might be a HUGE waste of everyone's time and energy. Don't make this kind of impression - don't settle for lousy photos which are worse than no photos at all. Take a GOOD photograph - that is informative, (truly shows the conformation) and flattering (shows the best points of your horse to full advantage.) Showing good shots of the legs from exact side, front & rear views will definitely help sell a straight-legged horse, and will demonstrate honesty & help sell them when they aren't so straight. If it has a pretty head, show a portrait photo of its head. Sometimes this isn't easy, sometimes it takes more effort or time than we thought it would, and lots of photographs! You may even have to get someone to help you, God forbid! But ultimately that is a lot easier (and much more responsible) than not being able to sell a horse you don't want to keep, because you refuse to get good enough photos. If a breeder takes little pride or effort in the photographs displaying their horse, what does that say about them as a horse owner or breeder? It just stands to reason they must demonstrate that they value their own investment before asking a stranger to value it enough to pay money for it. In fact this is such a pervasive problem in our breed, I venture to guess probably some of us just don't know any better. On Curly Horse Web, we will be putting together some webpages that visually document some DO's and DO-NOT's when it comes to photographing your horses. We hope this will be useful in improving our overall photography of our breed. For right now, visit this webpage: Montana Ranch Horses where I took a few photos of a neighbor's gelding for sale, where I show you what kind of photos it takes to accurately represent a horse for sale, and what a buyer needs to see in order to develop serious interest in purchasing a horse from you.

Do I have the proper facilities to breed my mare? The reasoning behind this question is, first, safety of the mare & foal at delivery. If you range breed, on 1000's of acres of rugged bluffs & mountain slopes, Mother Nature will take care of that for you. But if like most, you run your mare on an unchallenging flat field of a couple hundred acres or less, guess what? She'll stand around and gestate and eat, and next thing you know, there are foaling complications. (Well sometimes anyway.) Point being, if you have an intensive situation, (as opposed to extensive) you must have the facilities to watch & care for the mare when she nears foaling time.

Do I have the proper facilities to raise a foal? Next, you must have the facilities to allow proper initial handling of the newborn foal when imprinting, or halter-breaking later on, etc. This is so you can offer a well-handled, very confident, people-friendly foal for sale. Trust me when I tell you, most people do not have the understanding or ability to successfully train a foal or youngster that has not already been handled daily & completely gentled. No matter how much you explain this to prospective buyers, it will still happen with many of them after they take possession of it. They will blame it on you and your breeding program, and in this respect, out of ignorance, they will not be wrong.

Do I have the knowledge &/or experience to properly raise & train a foal from birth to sale? This question is pretty well self-explanatory. Don't kid yourself about the answer, or else you won't be doing yourself, your horses, or the industry, any favors.

Would my Curly mare make a positive contribution to the breed? Aw, such a hard one! Does *Tootsie, our beloved sweetheart mare, that I trust my children's lives with, have genetic contributions to offer the Curly breed? What if she's kind of, well, homely, but a real love? Is to-die-for temperament enough to offer? Or what if it's the opposite? What if she is a Curly Horse without the famous-claimed puppy dog personality, just average or a bit below average in the temperament department, but would sure improve the conformation of a lot of Curly Horses? These are some of the toughest questions to answer in the industry. Sometimes it is tough to answer correctly because it is hard to be completely honest with ourselves. And sometimes, it is not answered correctly because the owner honestly doesn't know. And sometimes it isn't answered correctly because the owner doesn't know s/he doesn't know! Maybe this question should be: Do I know enough about conformation, movement & type to know if my mare is "good enough" to breed?

How can I be sure my mare is "good enough" to breed? By first asking yourself that question. Take heart. This doesn't have to be hard. None of our horses are perfect. And none of us are perfect. That's ok. If every inexperienced breeder (and that refers to their level of experience & knowledge, not to the numbers of horses they have brought into this world, by the way) can admit it if they aren't overly knowlegable or experienced in evaluating correct equine conformation, and just make it their mission to find out, all will be well. That is arguably the most important responsibility of every breeder - make sure the animals you breed have conformation and quality that will at the very least maintain, and ideally, improve the present quality of the breed. Breeders must make informed breeding choices. That means, either learn about conformation, (before they breed a mare) or find someone trustworthy to consult with and rely on their advice. GOOD NEWS: Educational Curly Horse inspections are starting this year (2006). These inspections will feature very knowlegable inspectors to evaluate Curly Horses and give their owners information about their conformation & quality, and whether they would be good breeding animals, and why or why not, and what should be looked for to balance traits in sire selection. These inspections will be held with education and information as the primary motivation. If you would like to sponsor a Curly Horse inspection, contact your area ICHO representative. And always remember, old *Sweetheart, a kind, giving, serving family mare, may not in every case be the best candidate for breeding, but that determination will in no way deflect from her invaluable contribution as a beloved family member or a child's teacher & best friend!

Should I wait until after my Curly mare is trained to ride before breeding her? In almost all cases, yes. Rarely will you hear another answer from a reputable breeder, but on the other hand, rarely will you find a reputable breeder who hasn't broken that rule. There are several good reasons for that rule though. A horse should not be ridden to any extent before 4 years of age, and also should not be bred before then. If you've waited that long, then start her ground training in the round pen, and start light saddling at age 3. Before she contributes to the gene pool, you should know what she is likely to produce for riding horses, since that is the reason most people own their horses to begin with. Is she smooth to ride? What is her temperament like during training? What is her relationship with her trainer? Is she sensitive, timid, trusting, anxious, resentful, stubborn, courageous? What is her attitude towards learning? What is her attitude towards her job, such as trail riding, show horse, lesson horse, ranch horse, etc. There is an old cowboy saying, "nothing a good horse loves better than the work of a man."

WHY do I want to breed my Curly mare? Make sure you know why. Right now, there isn't exactly a shortage. Never allow your horse ownership or breeding program to be solely about personal pride or ego or profit. (If you do, the only person you will be kidding will be yourself.) One way to check this is to always keep an open mind, and listen, and consider all the merits of discussions among people you respect, even when you don't agree with them or when you hear something you don't want to hear. If you find yourself being too emotional or assertive or defensive about certain topics or aspects of Curly Horses or ownership, chances are, you have too much innappropriate baggage invested in your horse ownership or breeding program, and you need to step back and examine why you own them, and what you expect them to provide in your life. You probably shouldn't breed them until you sort some of those issues out.



Why did I write this editorial? I guess I owe those of you who don't know my personal situation that explanation. I've always had Quarter Horses - I first got into Curly Horses in 1996, and by 1998-1999 owned over 100 breeding and riding horses (many of those were Curlies). By 2000, I found myself being divorced and asked to leave my 6500 acre ranch home with all my horses, and with suddenly no income or way to feed them, and deeply in debt, as all my former savings & retirement had all been invested into that ranch! So for the next 6 years as I sold off my horses as quickly & responsibly as my situation allowed, I endured or barely escaped some of the horror stories I refer to above, personally. Pure motivations and sincere intentions are no guarantees in life, nor excuses, we all know that. But I do want to share lessons I have learned regardless of the reasons for potential failures, and lessons I have observed others learning (or not). Our Curly Horses deserve nothing less than our best efforts. So I want to continue to help others avoid what I have seen happen & almost happen to others & myself, and continue to contribute to all the successes possible in our industry, many of which I have experienced and will always be profoundly grateful for.



Donna still lives & works in Montana, now on 20 acres with 2 part-time cowgirl daughters, and 6 horses, 2 of which are Curly Horses left over from Crow Country Curly Horses. Only a minimal Curly foal "crop" is planned each year. Having joined forces with Tracy in Old West Curly Horses, they have found yet another rewarding purpose for these kind-souled Curly Horses.





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